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@Dominic

@andrestaltz hey, if I buy a new phone (very reluctantly!) what android version do I need to run your stuff? Is Nougat good enough? I much prefer to by the bottom end phones (as a matter of principle) but they usually seem to have older android versions.

@andrestaltz

Hey @dominic, Nougat is certainly good enough, but even lower than that works. My main test device for mmmmm stuff has been a Nexus 5 (from 2013!), Android version 6.0.1, and architecture armv7l. So low end, but not my grandfather's Android phone.

@Dominic

Hmm, that is what I had and I couldn't get it running. Last I remember, you were reluctant to support that. Anyway, that phone is broken now (I have ordered parts to repair it - partially as experiment).

@andrestaltz

I think that's because the Android version was very old, like version 4.4 (from 2013) or something, if I remember correctly. That version is now officially unsupported and most devices have gotten updated OS versions that were important at least for security.

@bob

@Dominic have we got a deal for you....................)
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@neftaly

FWIW USB-C seems waaay more robust than MicroUSB

@krisa

I have quite old OnePlus one. It stayed recent because i put there https://lineageos.org/ The problem is that most of the android phone manufactures support software updates for like year or two. So it is very good idea to go install something like lineageOS. Lot of manufacturers like to keep their drivers proprietary and not share them at all. OnePlus is quite good in this and they also allow rooting the phone which most manufacturers prohibit.

Lineage is unfortunately not pure libre (some of core libs are proprietary). There are projects like https://www.replicant.us/ that aim to be pure open-source but i never heard anyone say that they work well. So if we are talking about Android i would go for older models of nexus or oneplus which are supported well by projects like LineageOS. I don't know how hard it is to get them new.

But the fact i have OnePlus One bought in 2014 that still has current android version is quite miracle in the phone world where manufacturers force users to switch every two years.

@krisa

If you manage to repair your nexus 5 slap lineage (codename hammerhead on lineageos) there and you will be fine. Nexus 5 is one of the most supported phones. I believe LineageOS is rolling Android 8.1 into the stable Lineage 15. So you will get the most up to date android on nexus 5.

@js0000

i agree that #lineageOS is outstanding for older hardware. i'm running my one plus one also on it (just like you, i guess)- and never liked it better.

fwiw, recently i've been using monochrome mode, which i like a lot too. when i switch the colors back on- it's been like a sugar rush! 😂

it's the least evil phone software i can find

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