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Floating scuttlebutt crypto-anarchist p2p seasteading festival thread

@Dominic @Helena @Lucas @everyone

@dangerousbeans

idea is to bring as many floating things & people together as possible for music, hacking maybe sketchy boat building and racing

Nearish to Auckland, possibly quite soon because the weather is good!

@ktorn
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@ktorn

I'd love to join but not even half-way through this (it is my bedtime reading at the moment) and I don't yet have a suitable floating device that can get me from Macau to NZ in a short amount of time.

Maybe in 2 years time! :smiley:

@Zon
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@dangerousbeans

@ktorn there's a lot of boats for sale here in the 5-10k NZD range which you can totally live on, also if you anchor right beside @Dominic you can leech his SSB connection but his boat turns the opposite way to all other boats at anchor so watch out

@Helena
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@Dominic

@ktorn read this one next! https://www.amazon.com/Voyaging-Small-Income-Annie-Hill/dp/1888671378/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1487663579&sr=1-1&keywords=voyaging+on+a+small+income

@dangerousbeans

Or get Amazon's handy Nomadic Seasteading Bumperbundle:

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@ktorn

@dominic

There is no Kindle version of Voyaging on a Small Income. Do you have an EPUB or PDF version of it that you can share?

@dangerousbeans

I already had Leap of Faith in my waiting list, not because of its terrible title, but because of the great subtitle :wink:

It's a shame that @Liongrass did not stick around for long, he's also into Seasteading, in addition to Bitcoin. One day I'll nudge him about it.

@Dominic

@ktorn no, but I did manage to assemble the first ten pages which amazon lets you see anyway into a pdf... voyaging-on-a-small-income_intro.pdf

@xstt
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@xstt

We'll bring @mobutu 's boat from UK to Amsterdam and join the movement!

@juul

Yeah! I've been needing an excuse to stop by! Also @ktorn and @dominic you can buy ebooks from amazon, copy it, strip the DRM and return the book. It's been a while since I did it last but I believe it still works. I use windows in a virtualbox running the kindle app and then Calibre with the DeDRM plugin. Remember to upload to Library Genesis :)

@kumavis

went to empherisle once
was neat but watched a poor soul who had taken too many psychedelics try to cope with it. he was discovered naked and cold on a shore, taken back to the boats, comforted for a bit, coast guard wanted to check in, he ran (and swam) from them and was chased naked down some wave breakers, probly detained

weather was terrible, some anchors unhooked in the middle of the night. was mostly just rented pontoons tied together.

high logistics, high difficulty, tad bit of danger

granted this was basically just in some marina, so was hardly a remote location, just difficult.

I thought it was neat-- but for the sake of a party, it was too much work. The notion of a more permanent setup is really really interesting, and it makes sense to scale that with experiments, so I can understand it from that angle.

pitched as "a (small) burning man on the water" it was more like "(small) burning man confined to small spaces with the risk of drowning"

hope im not putting a kabosh on the enthusiasm, just wanted to share a mixed experience

bonus: some random empherisle flickr
https://www.flickr.com/photos/meenashah/sets/72157632344473774/

@Dominic

@kumavis "drowning man" We are gonna be a lot more sober than this, I am sure.

@Helena

here some more inspiration for our floatilla: http://www.kaljakellunta.org/en/kaljakellunta/ (they do have a reasonable sounding safety guide, too)

@dangerousbeans

event name ideas?

@kumavis

"sync-or-swim"

@juul

scuttleboat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdi6E-qzS1c

@juul

scuttleboat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdi6E-qzS1c

@Helena

Lemuria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemuria_(continent)

@David Brooks

This is a pretty good book along the same lines of "Voyaging on a Small Income": https://www.amazon.com/Sailing-Farm-Survival-Guide-Homesteading/dp/0898150515

@Helena

Update: We settled on scuttle_float_fest as a name for now :) and try to make it happen on the 18th March in Mahurangi. Plan is to meet up somewhere in Auckland Harbour in the morning and then sail together up north to Mahurangi, to raft up in the afternoon and party/swim/chill. Also anyone keen to join us with inflatables and kayaks etc. can camp there as there's plenty doc campgrounds all around. poster2-V01.jpg

@ansuz

I hope there are enough life-jackets to go around.

@mix

In writing a talk about scuttlebutt, I've realised that I feel like Frodo at the end of The Lord of the Rings - Middle Earth is not for me anymore... I'm sailing west

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@dangerousbeans

@mixmix lots of spiders west though

@neftaly

Do many attending have modern chartplotters? I could do a short talk/workshop on beating the DRM for charts (Navionics etc).

@Dominic

@neftaly pretty sure @lucas does

@Dominic

forcast looks good, outlook for saturday: "Southerly 15 knots, turning southeast. Mainly fine."

@dangerousbeans

Yeee! You back in auckland?

@Dominic

@dangerousbeans back this evening

@dangerousbeans

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@dangerousbeans

We're gunna head off with the tide tomorrow around mid day and sail up half way, maybe anchor around Shakespear land then sail the rest Saturday morning

@Dominic

@dangerousbeans @helena allow me to suggest Rakino - forecast for tomorrow is SE, and rakino is good in those conditions, and you should have a fair breeze on sat also

@dangerousbeans

Sounds good @Dominic @robin.paulson @neftaly up for sailing up together tomorrow? (Friday)

@robin

Cheers for the offer, I've got things on this weekend, plus I still haven't fixed the main sail halyard.....

@Dominic

@dangerousbeans it seems I have caught your engine troubles, something wrong with the cooling system. The pump works, water comes in, but it doesn't come out the back.

Engine heats up and alarm goes off (engine is not seized, which is good), stop engine.

It's either the themostat or something is clogged.

Am currently anchored just off north head, there is a very light easterly, but tide is also against me until midnight so gonna wait here a bit...

Luckily I know the joys of engineless sailing quite well.

@neftaly

I'm going to have to call it off, something has come up Saturday :( Will try and get out on the water on Sun, if anyone wants to hang out then. Will also see if I can drive up for a bit - really want to join in!

@Dominic

I took off the pump, but everything looked fine, and if opened the seacock then water flowed through, so obviously it was not the pump.

Then I took off the thermostat (after reading the manual, of course) it said to test that the thermostat opened and closed at the right temperature, by heating it in water on the stove, measuring with a thermometer. I didn't have a thermometer on board, so I just poured hot water on it to see if it moved. It did!

Oh, it was a bit rusty, yeah so this is not good. It means I should have replaced the anodes - or the previous owner should have.

Anyway, I cleaned the worst of the rust off, and it seemed to be working so I put it back to geather. And tested, cooling water was flowing! I ran it like that for a while, then I heard a weird scraping sound, and the engine was loosing power. I stopped it immediately, the engine was really hot, and a cooling water hose had popped off. It was one that took water out of the engine, maybe the change in pressure caused the mechanism to not work correctly?

Anyway, I fixed the pipe and started the engine it cooled down and now everything seems okay again.

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